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Question: I have just acquired a double barrel 12ga shotgun at an antique auction in Northern California. The gun has some Wells Fargo insignia stamped on the stock and under the barrels. It also has a metal shield mounted with brads on the stock which reads C.P.R.R. GUARD W.F&CO.EX. I have spoken to the Wells Fargo historian in San Francisco. He is confident that it is a fake, as Wells Fargo never marked their weapons in this manner. I also spoke to the historian at the railroad museum in Sacramento. He too is confident that it is a fake. Apparently, Wells Fargo employees on CPRR trains were armed by Wells Fargo. CPRR never provided weapons to their employees and there would be no reason for the gun to display the CPRR initials. Soooo, I am confident that this is a bogus Wells Fargo item. But, as an old firearm, can you give me some idea of it's value. It is in about 90% condition. It appears to be hand engraved J MANTON on either side of the action. It reads J MANTON LONDON FINE DEMASCUS along the top between the barrels. There is no serial number anywhere on the gun. My guess is that if the gun was used to dummy up a bogus relic, that it cant be worth much. Maybe I will hang it over the fireplace....

Answer: $50, I cannot add to what you have said.

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Jim Supica, "Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson: Jim is a nationally known antique weapons dealor, the owner of Old Town Station Dispatch, a periodical that specializes in the sale of antique firearms. Jim also conducts frequent auctions of antique firearms. His book mentioned above is 256 pages with 270 photos. It has been well reviewed: "comprehensive & well organized" --Guns Magazine . . . . "The complete book of S&W handguns" -- guns and Weapons for Law Enforcement. Jim can be found at OldTownSta@aol.com.

Question: I have a revolver that I think is a 32. On barrel it has: Smith & Wesson Springfield Mass. U.S.A. PAT'D JAN.17&24 ,65 JULY 11 65 AUG. 24, 69 FEB 20 1877 REISSUE JULY 25 1871, Back closer to the hammer it says PAT'D April 20 75 & DEC 18 1877. The gun is a 5 shot, top break, single action revolver with hard rubber grips. The serial number is either 98969 or 69686 (I didn't know which way to read it!) Could you tell me anything about this gun and it's value? Thanks for taking the time to help me!

Answer: It sounds as if you have a S&W .32 Single Action, also called the "Model One and a half, Centerfire". nearly 100,000 were made between its introduction in 1878 and it's discontinuance in 1892. It's chambered for the .32 S&W cartridge, which was introduced at the same time, and is still manufactured. I sell quite a few of these through my mail order catalog, "Old Town Station Dispatch", and they usually bring between $100 and $250 retail, depending on condition.

I hope this has been of interest. Jim Supica, President, Old Town Station, Ltd., Antique Arms, Lenexa KS

I hope this has been of interest. Jim Supica, President, Old Town Station, Ltd., Antique Arms, Lenexa KS


Tom LoPiano: Tom LoPiano is currently owner of Historical Investors Group, who collects, markets and performs research on historical Americana and fine Colt firearms. An expert on "historically-inscribed" weapons, Tom acquires arms for collectors, investors and institutions and provides historical research for museums, historical societies, collectors and genealogists.

Tom has been a long-time contributing editor to magazines such as Gun Report and Man at Arms and has authored articles on collecting historical arms ("Retracing Their Steps", Man at Arms, Nov., 1980 and "If That Old Gun Could Talk, Colt Collectors Assc., June ,1984, in addition to dozens of articles on specific historical weapons.

Located at 110 Lexington Way So., Milford, CT 06460 and has a gallery in New York City. Phone 203-877-9665. E-mail cwlopi@aol.com. New web site under construction.


Tom Burness, Tom has been a collector and dealer in Antique Firearms for the last 30 years. He has been a fixture at all the major antique firearm shows on the West Coast for that entire time. Though his range of knowledge extends through most weapons of the 1800's, his area of chief interest are guns of the Old West. Henry Rifles, All other lever action Winchesters, Colt Single Actions, Big Bore Single Shot Rifles and several types of collectible Shotguns, specifically, Colt and Winchester Shotguns. Tom has been a good friend and helped me get started into collecting. Tom can be reached at tomburness@foothill.net.

Question: I found your address on antiqueguns.com. My question involves an old >revolver I recently aquired. It is a 6 shot hammerless double action >stamped on the top "U.S.Revolver Co." and "Made in U.S.A.". The cylinder >does not pop open, rather when the pin is pulled out the cylinder is >removed. It has black grips that appear to be either plastic or hard >rubber, each side bearing the inscription "U.S." There >is a serial number, 29528, in unevenly spaced numerals stamped on the >bottom of the trigger guard. When I say it is hammerless I mean that >there is no way to cock it. You can visibly see the hammer move when the >trigger is pulled. The finish is rather good but worn. I took it to a >gun shop and the guy told me it was a .38 S&W caliber. I would >appreciate if you could tell me when this gun was made, by whom, and >possibly how much it is worth. I haven't been able to find anything on >this manufacturer. Thanks. >

Answer: This is a "suicide special" solid frame New Line style revolver made by the Otis Smith Co. in Rockfall,Ct. probably in the pre-turn of the century. They were made from the 1870s thru the '90s, and U.S.Arms was one of the many "trade names" that Otis Smith used. Smith was no relation to the Smith of S&W, and his little revolvers were of modest quality, altho' he did make a few models under his own name that were of quite good quality. Even in "prime" condition, these are not seriously collected, and specimens run from about $35 up to perhaps $200 for his own marked gun in 95%+ condition...UNLESS they are fancy engraved, THEN they are sought after by collectors. All this would be for guns that are working condition with no replaced parts. Good luck, and a very BLESSED and Merry Christmas! Tom Burness

Dave Taylor's Civil War Antiques Company has been actively engaged in buying, selling, and appraising items for over 20 years. We specialize in quality Civil War arms, accoutrements, photos, personal items, flags, uniforms, etc... Everything we sell is 100% guaranteed to be original and "as described". We issue photo illustrated mail order catalogs at $5 each, and our shop/gallery is open by appointment in Waterville, Ohio. Write us at Dave Taylor's Civil War Antiques P.O. Box 87 Sylvania, Ohio 43560. Phone (419)878-8355 weekdays (419)882-5547 eves Fax is (419)878-8365 and e-mail is davetaylor.civilwar@sylvania.sev.org

Question: I have a sword which my mother told me was used by her grandfather (maybe great gradfather) in the civil war. I have read all of the writing on the sword and done a search but I have been unable to turn up anything that would verify this swords authenticity. The sword is about a meter long and double edged. The blade has "M.C.Lilley & Co." printed very small on the blade near the hilt, and "The Knights of St. John" decoratively inscribed along the entire length of the blade. The handle of the sword has a knights helmet on the end. The sheath of the sword is metal and has a small(3"x3") "shield shaped" piece of metal near the open end of the sheath, with the letters "KST"(Knights of St. John, I would assume) ornately carved into it. The sword and sheath both seem to have seen a lot of action and age, from their appearance. This is the best description of the sword that I can give. I realize it is not much, but from what I have said is there anything that would indicate the origins of this sword? Do you recognize "M.C. Lilley & Co."? Any pointers you could give me would be appreciated, I really would like to find out if this is a Civil War sword or if my Mother informed me incorrectly. Thanks. > > Ken Sewell >

Answer: Hi Ken, Sorry to say that Mom was wrong. The sword is an example of a 19th century fraternal or lodge sword, typical of those made in the decades following the Civil War. The fact that yours bears the maker/dealers marking of "M.C. Lilley & Co." (an Ohio firm) is proof positive that the sword did not see service in the Civil War as that company didn't come into existence until after the war was over. It did make and supply lodge, fraternal, Grand Army, and other military regalia items in the years following the Civil War. But your mom was wrong about the Civil War connection. Sorry, Dave Taylor

Jim Westberg has been a student of 19th century shotguns, cartridge and muzzleloading, for over 20 years. His particular interest is in the Brittish gun trade, its cottage industry structure, the historic lineage of the various makers and the English influence on the evolution of the shotgun. Jim has also developed a good deal of skill, all self taught, in the repair and technical function of these guns. Over the years, he has seen and examined 'hundreds, maybe thousands' of guns and notes that in some way each one is unique. westbj@primenet.com

Question: >Any value to a 1894 Remington double barrel shotgun? 30" barrel, Model >NOSHOC, Serial No. P139265, F Grade. > >Your response would be appreciated. > >Sir,

Answer: Your Remington shotgun's value is entirely dependent on origionality and condition. The higher grade of guns are quite desirable if in pristine condition, yours undoubtedly is extensively engraved, probably stocked in English Walnut, equipped with ejectors, and sports fancy damascus barrels but could have steel barrels. Remington doubles have not achieved the collectable status of Parker, Fox, and Winchester guns, therefore a small market exists among a relatively limited number of Remington collectors. If your gun is mint and origional, it could fetch in the area of $1500+, however a gun showing wear, handling dings, and the ever "popular" recoil pad, would be worth less than 1/2 of the above value and difficult to sell. Incidentally, the gun's chambers are probably shorter than 2 3/4", if you intend to shoot it be sure that you use cartridges of the proper length.

Reguards,

Jim Westberg

Question: I have a 12 gauge single barrel pinfire shotgun. It has a damascus >barrel, and a brass trigger guard with carved ebony scrollwork on the >stock behind it. The top of the tang is marked "P. Hall Encre?en >Strubeki?bi NC" Condition is fair. The hammer is missing. Any info on >the maker or time period of manufacture? Is it worth trying to have a >hammer fabricated? Is there someone in northwest Illinois who can look >at it, or fabricate a hammer? Thanks! > >Sir,

Answer: Based on the information that you provide, I suspect the gun is of German or Austrian origin...perhaps Belgian. The 'en Strubecki' notation and the work that you describe behind the trigger guard are indicative of these areas. The 'carving' you describe is probably of a stylized animal and may well be of horn upon close examination.

A single barrel pin-fire shotgun in 'fair' condition does not command much collector interest and therefore is of nominal value. Your best bet would be to leave it alone and enjoy it for what it is....an old gun. Making a proper hammer could well involve more money than the gun is worth.

Reguards

Jim Westberg

Tom Bowen Jr. has been a been a relic hunter since he was 14. Her is a certified Civil War nut. He used to manage a prospecting and metal detector store and he knows his dug stuff. He has published in the Civil War Times and for several Deer Hunting Magazines. nutspec@ns.ivic.net

Question: Tom, > > > Saw your category in the Antique Guns web site. Seeking > infomation on > > > a > > > possible Civil War relic. I recovered a knife in an area where > other > > > Civil War artifacts were dug. The knife is approximately 4 1/2" > in > > > length, has several brass pins for a wooden or bone handle, and > has a > > > folding blade. The knife is very rusted and did not realize it > had a > > > folding until I cleaned the knife. My question is, were folding > blade > > > > > > knives used during the Civil War era? > > > And how would I be able to ID this knife? > > > Thank You > > > Ed > > > > Thanks for the question Ed > > > >

Answer: The folding pocket knife was used by many soldiers in the Civil War. > > > The form of the pocket knife has not changed much since well before > the > > war. The older knives used wood, bone and horn most frequently in > the > > handles, but other materials such as brass are frequently seen in > > excavated examples. If you are very lucky you will find ones that > have > > patriotic messages on the brass handle portion. These nobody can > argue > > about. However, yours sounds like one of the more common examples. > If > > you found this one associated with other relics, it is a good bet > that > > it is of the period. The brass pins sure make it sound that way. > You > > will find knives fairly commonly in fields, but for the most part it > is > > easy to tell them apart because of the modern materials in them > (plastic > > handles/fake horn/stainless steel blades etc) I'd put it in my > > collection display. Congrats on a good find. - Tom Bowen Jr. > >

Question: Tom, > Thank you for responding to my question. Would it be possible to > identify the manufacturer of the knife? Do you recommend > electrolysis, > as a method to clean the knife? > Again, thank you. Ed

Answer: Ed 1. Identity - Pretty unlikely as there were hundreds if not thousands of small makers, both in the US and overseas. Most of them have never been cataloged. You would have to have a bold marking and almost no pitting (and your description didn't make it sound like this) to have any chance. Sorry. 2. I'm personally not real fond of "cooking" relics as a means of rust removal. Two reasons - First, I think that when you are done it leaves a surface that is almost always "cooked" looking with a blackened/silvery look. This is my own personal hangup so feel free to disagree. Secondly, many relics have features that will remain with other cleaning methods that are knocked off by electro-juice because they are porous and fragile and are bulldozed off by the current.

Personally, for items like your knife I soak them for a week or so in a sealed container of liquid wrench penetrant and brush with a copper/brass brush. If any red rust remains, repeat until just the stable brown surface remains. You will see when to stop. Yea, it takes more time, but - it took 130+ years to get into your hands, can't it wait a month to go on display???

Question: I was looking at purchasing from a dealer I trust a D-guard or large bowie > knife relic dug at Port Hudson. > It is approximately 24" and quite rusty. Naturally, the wooden handle is > gone, but overall it is in fairly > good shape after being buried for 130 years. What is a fair price for such > a relic? Thank you for your time. > Richard Rhone > >

Answer: Richard - There are two very important items in you request. First is the term "a dealer I trust". This potentially narrows the scope of my reply as a trustworthy dealer will give you the correct background information to the item. I have had the wonderfull experience of finding a gun I used to own and discovering that the dealer had invented a remarkable and windy history of the life of the man who owned it during the Civil War (none of which existed when I traded it) If you trust the information that it did come from Port Husdon it helps a bunch. Then, the second item is the rather more thorny issue of "fair" pricing. Dug relics have individual personalities and levels of attractiveness. However, I would expect a known item, dug from a specific place, to be priced between 500 and 750 dollars. Now, this price is an expected RETAIL price. Dealers are bombarded by those who buy price guides and assume that the prices they see are the prices they will be offered. Frequently they end up going away mad. (I guess because they assume all dealers are non-profit organizations)

Unknown D-guards from the trucks of cars I have seen priced from 20 dollars to 3000. Please know that the level of pricing should be related to the provable or researchable history of an item. Many , many, D-guards were made outside the US and well after the war. (They did not think to themselves "wow, the war's over, I guess that we have to stop making these now")

Thanks for the question - Tom Bowen Jr.

James B. Whisker, James Biser Whisker has authored or co-authored over 20 books on the Pa-Ky long rifle, including arms makers of, and arms made in, Pa, Ohio, Md, the Carolinas, W. Va., and Va. He has taught at West Virginia University since 1968. He also co-authored books on Springfield Armory, 1795-1859, and Harpers Ferry Armory. Titles in preparation include a photo book on arms made in the CSA and US Martial Single Shot Pistols. He has written over 100 articles which have appeared in GUN REPORT, MUZZLE BLASTS, and magazines published by various collector organizations. He received the first Forrest Tilton Memorial Award for service to the Association of Ohio Long Rifle Collectors. BOOKS Gunsmiths of West Virginia Arms Makers of Western Pa Gunsmiths of Virginia Long Rifles of Virginia Gunsmiths of Bedford, Somerset & Fulton Cos., Pa Gunsmiths of Adams, Franklin & Cumberland Cos., Pa Kentucky Rifle Patchboxes II (with Rocky Chandler) The Northern Armory: Springfield, 1795-1859 The Southern Armory: Harpers Ferry, 1798-1861 Gunsmiths of York Co., Pa. Gunsmiths of Lancaster Co., Pa Behold the Long Rifle Again He has also defended our rights to bear arms and to hunt. A revised edition of his RIGHT TO HUNT (1980) is currently in press. Needless to say, Jim knows his stuff. For information or to buy a copy of one of Jim's books contact him at whisker@bedford.net

Question: I bought a Charleyville musket many years back. Everything appears > authentic when checked out with Robert Reilly's books United States > Military Small Arms & United states Martial Flintlocks. All screws are > numbered as well as the barrel, bands, stock, triggerguard with #37. It > is .69 Cal. Opposite the lock in the stock is stamped CA (could this be > for Cornelius Austin - a New Jersey armorer 1776-1778, or a French > armorer ?) > The one thing that I can't verify is the lock plate. It is mostly > beveled w/brass pan. Just behind the pan and in front of the cock is a > small square with a K in the middle. This is the only markings. Can you > shed any light on the lock? > Thanks for your consideration. > Bob

Answer: This is quite a bit out of my line, so, frankly, No, I can't help much. May I suggest also checking George Moeller's 2 vols on US martial long arms. George showed a lot of interesting stuff. Many of his opinions are conjecture, learned, but likely never to be verified. Just no source material to check against! But George's books offer as good coverage as this period is likely to ever receive. Jim Whisker

I have a musket in good condition. It was used by one of my ancestors in > the War of 1812, and that is about all the history that I know of it. I > has Ohio stamped on the stock near the the trigger. It has a cheek peice > stock. It is cap and ball type. It is 52.5" total length, not counting > the bayonet which is another 19" long. The barrel is 36" long. There are > no other marks on the gun other than the OHIO stamped on the stock. It > has a .5" muzzle, and is rifled in the last 2" of the barrel only. Any > help that you can give me on this would greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > J. Brown >

Answer: First, the OHIO stamp usually means that a gun either produced at 1 of 2 national armories (Harpers Ferry or Springfield) or made under gov't contract by a private manufactory of arms was issued to the state militia of Ohio under provisions of the Militia Act of 1808. I think this is as far as we can go until I get some more information from you. Now, my 1st guess is a M-1814/1817 "common rifle" since it is apparently .54 caliber. I cannot recall many/any .58 calibers issued to militia that might have been stamped OHIO. So, let's try: 1. the lock: it surely has some mark! (lock is where hammer is) 2. what is length of barrel? 3. are there any markings on the barrel at all? There ought to be some marks at the breech area (end of barrel near the lock). If none of this is there ... well, I just don't know. As I reflected on this, I thought maybe a foreign import of Civil War era, some of which are not well marked (others seem to have almost too many marks!). No disrespect, but can you tell if it was on e converted from flint to percussion lock? There was no percussion locks in War of 1812; US and most foreign nations did not go to percussion until c. 1840. In US, M-1841 was the first long arms made in percussion; but over next decades many of the earlier guns were converted from flint to cap lock. The more you can tell me, the more I can tell you! Happy New Year, Jim Whisker

Question: dear Mr Whisker > I found your name on antiqueguns.com and wondered if you could give me > some information.I have an old double barreled rifle that belonged to my > grandmothers family and would like to find out about it if I can. > It is a double barreled percussion rifle,possibly converted from > flintlock?? > overall length is 52 inches. Barrel length is 36.5 . 2 barrels octaganol in > shapewith a flat rib on top covering v between the 2 barrels. Approx. 40 > caliper. v groove sight on rear let into flat rib. front sight is brass > also dovetailed into rib. Percussion nipples appear hand made. 3 rings down > bottom groove between barrels to hold ramrod, with the one closest to > breech being under forestock and having a saddle under it for pin which > holds barrel on. > Stock length is 26.5 in. It has a brass halfmoon butt plateand a steel > oval patch box lid. Brass trigger gaurd 7.5 in total length with 2 steel > triggers.Engraved steel side plates with engraving. Side plate stamped with > letters that appear to be (G GOULCHER). > Gun is in pretty poor shape and I dont think its worth much but I would > like to find out about it if I can. Any info or avenues to check would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thank you > Byron Light ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Answer: Goulcher was a gunlock importer, locks made in England, the Goulcher firm that imported was in Philadelphia. Doubtless, many of their locks, in turn, were resold by various hardware dealers. Is there any name or set of initials on the barrels? On a double barrel usually marked on only 1 of the 2 barrels. Is the gun made to swivel or not? Is the normal position of the barrels side by side or over/ under? I assume there is no brass patch or cap box on the buttstock or you'd have mentioned this. My guess is the gun was most probably made as percussion, especially with Goulcher locks. I cannot recall seeing many (if any) original flintlock Goulcher locks. If there is no name (or at least initials) on the barrels, my guess is that you will never know who made it. Unsigned double barrel percussion guns are not very valuable, and less so if they are in poor shape and have no patch or cap box. If there is a barrel signature, kindly advise. If not, and you still wish to pursue the topic, I will send you my address to send photos and perhaps (and I insist only perhaps) I can tell you at least the schhol. As a rule, more side by side doubles were NY or Ohio than perhaps anywhere else (although many were made in other states); over/under could have been made almost anywhere. If this was a heirloom, you would be infinitely better off keeping it & passing it along to someone in your family as a dealer really will not want it. Jim Whisker

Question: Dr. whisker > > My name is Mark Martini and I have been a fan of your books for quite > some time now. I would like to ask you a couple of questions pertaining > to a "mississippi" that was handed down to me a long time ago. > > When I was 10 or 11 I was playing around in my grandfathers barn and I > discovered this rifle. He informed me that it was his fathers gun and > back in the day they had kept it out there for slaughtering animals or > if they encountered pesky foxes or lions; until the time I had > rediscovered it he estimated that it had probably been out there some > 50-60 yrs. > The gun is very complete with the exception of the rod. The gun was > very weathered, but in very good mechancal condition. It had sat in my > fathers cabinets (who has been a black powder enthusiast since the late > 50's)until last year when my curiosity had gotten the best of me. > Against my fathers wishes I started cleaning this old thing up and > discovered that after checking the bore and removing the nipple it > seemed safe to shoot; and over the last year I have (quite often). > The gun was made by Tryon of Philladelphia, and to my understanding > they were only contracted to make about 5000 of these. > Since there were only 5000 of these made would it be possible to trace > them, maybe they went to a particular regiment or something. > The barrel was reamed out to .58 (hoping it was a colt job),it has a > brass front and fixed rear sight; there is no lug or does it seem that > there ever was one at one time. It is pitted at the muzzle, breech and > tang like we see on so many older guns, but it is still in shootable > shape. > The lock is stamped Tryon in front of the hammer and PHILADA > U.S. Pa. > 1844. > on the rear of the plate. > The underside of ther barrel,the inside of the lockplate and the > triggerguard all have the same stamp, indicating to me that this is a > pretty true gun.( but I'm no expert.) > The patchbox has inside: a combination wrench, jag and a spare nipple > still in the hole.I don't know if these were the origonal issue but I > would not know where else they would come from. > The tang of the buttplate is stramped 10, ( maybe a rack #)and the left > lower of the stock has an 8 stamped on it. > The stock itself displays no severe wear or cracks of any kind, just > wear of a rifle that is 153yrs. old. > One thing puzzles me about this piece, It has 2 inspectors marks on the > plate side mortice. Both are very ledgable, the small one is located > just behind the lock plate, its an oval running north to south and > inside the initals are NWP . The second is larger and to the rear of > the mortice but in the same fashion, it has WAT in its oval. ( any > suggestions) > Also I would like to find out if these guns were browned;when > I cleaned this thing up the barrel and lock came out shinny. > Lastly; your predictions on the value. > Thank you very much. > Mark Martini. > mrm133@psu.edu+++++++++++++++++++

Answer: I personally would not shoot a family heirloom! If something happened, you will have lost something special. And reproductions are cheap. 1st, barrels were indeed browned & most parts given coat of brown lacquer. The locks were tempered & this tempering showed some "case color" initially but most do clean bright. However, I would not like a M-1841 bright! The inspector marks in wood opposite lock show federal acceptance. NWP = Nahum W Patch, 1 of best known inspectors working out of Springfield; the WAT mark = William A. Thornton of Watertown Arsenal. Glad they are legible on your gun. Frankly, I will not buy any martial that does not have inspector's marks (except the few that aren't supposed to). Flayderman is correct in known production figures for federal gov't BUT there were (large) quantities made for sale to state militias & privately thru various dealers. At outbreak (or in anticipation) of war, both sides bought all these they could get their hands on! In my opinion, only the 1863 "Zouave" Remington were better muzzle-loading martial arms, and these were heavily based on the M-1841. Most large dealers in military equippage had significant numbers of M-1841 on hand in 1860/61. The M-1841 sold to commercial dealers would not have had inspector stamps; neither would those Bannerman made up of parts after the war. States had their own inspectors, but generally accepted what Whitney called "good & serviceable" arms, meaning they would have failed the relatively rigid federal inspection. The question that will never be answered is: were federal purchases of dealers' stocks of M-1841 inspected? My guess is they were not, just as imported European arms were not inspected generally. Whitney & perhaps others bought up condemned (often meaning only parts that failed inspection for cosmetic reasons) & made up guns around them. CSA arms were so scarce that their armorers cobbled up almost anything that could be made to fit together! As yet, there is no good book on M-1841; a physician from midwest has several hundred of best M-1841 & is allegedly planning to put out a super book on these. I showed just Harpers Ferry production models in my book on that armory. That physician owns the original model (M stamped markings) but has not allowed me to photograph it in anticipation of his own book coming out. My book on CSA arms, due out in 3/98, will show several CSA M-1841 rifles, 1 I like best is Palmetto (pre-war state of SC), a secondary CSA arm. Also a few of what CSA called M-1841 pattern arms, more or less, more less than more, most w/o patchboxes. Thank you for the kind remarks on my books. We have several projects in the works: 1 or more on "contract arms" -- a book on Yankee arms of Civil War -- a book on foreihn arms imported during the war. Best to you, Jim Whisker

Question: sir > Do you know of any good books on rifles during the civil war era. Ed >

Answer: Well, my own go up to the Civil War. Many of the arms made at Harpers Ferry & Springfield before 1860 were used heavily on both sides in the civil war. The old standard on civil was was Claude Fuller's RIFLED MUSKET IN SERVICE. Edwards' CIVIL WAR GUNS has mediocre photos but loads of important information. I would certainly want to own both. Dr Murphy's massive, monumental study of CSA arms is expensive at $125 but frankly I think it will appreciate substantially in value (as his now out of print book on CSA carbines has). My own book ARMING THE GLORIOUS CAUSE: Weapons of the Second War for Independence will be out in March 1998 & is 99% photos. List will be either $40 or $45, same price as my 2 books noted above. I am also working on an update on Fuller's book & it will be out in a year or two. Am also working on a book on imported arms used by both sides, again a year or more away. If you are a dealer we do offer standard dealer discounts. Jim Whisker


Dimitri Singer is a French collector of antique firearms. He is specialized in 19th century pocket guns, mostly European made. His book, "Pistolets et revolvers de poche au 19eme siecle" (Pocket pistols and revolvers in the 19th century), describes a large amount of firearms, with a lot of photos and informations about systems and gun makers in Europe. Dimitri has recently moved to Northern California, so he will probably become a fixture at many of the major antique firearm shows on the West Coast. Please excuse his English, it is not perfect yet, but after hanging around a few cowboys he'll be talking like a Texan in no time. To purchase Dimitri's book, look him up at: <www.netsurf.org/~dimitri/antique.html>. To ask Dimitri a question click here: dimitri@netsurf.org


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