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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Test pic post. Just to adumbrate with PICS too</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8804,8808#msg-8808</link>
      <author>Wolfgang Dell</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hello dear Rick and Clyde, please find da few pictures of my New Jersey SAA, just for adumbrate with!!!!! Not a top quality gun, but I think very collectable.Sorry I do not know if I had posted pictures of this gun before, but looking a second time is not too boring.
Regards from Germany
Wolfgang]]></description>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Test pic post.</title>
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      <author>C.W. Howard</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Very nice piece, too.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:00:39 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Test pic post.</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8804,8806#msg-8806</link>
      <author>Rick S.</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Clyde, Yep, It's a N.Y. Militia made &quot;all matching&quot; by Colt. Hence the 5 digit serial with the last three restamped at the factory. Listed in Kopecs book and explained in a two page letter. I was trying to see if I could(w/limited knowledge)post a pic and what size it should be.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:39:20 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Test pic post.</title>
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      <author>C.W. Howard</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Well, appears to be a close up, approximately 1 to 1, of a martially marked Colt SAA from late 1881 per my S/N list. Excellent detail including the serialed cylinder.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:29:30 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Test pic post.</title>
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      <author>Rick S.</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Tes]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:44:00 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: P 53 Enfield rear sight</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8758,8803#msg-8803</link>
      <author>SEB</author>
      <description><![CDATA[After considerable research I have come to the conclusion that it is unlikely that a special back sight was ever developed for the Snider conversion. The last modification to the original went to the pattern room in November 1861. The maximum range calibration was raised to 1000 yards and the ladder was modified so that the slide could be lowered to a range below 500 yards if necessary. All of this according to Dr.C.H. Roads wonderfull book on the &quot;The British Soldier's Firearm&quot;. I have seen back sights produced by subcontractors calibrated for 800,900 and 950 yards.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:48:17 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Colt Army M 1847</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8780,8802#msg-8802</link>
      <author>C.W. Howard</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I think the Walkers used FFg instead of the more usual (for pistols) FFFg grade powder - and 50 grains with a 220 grain cylindro-concoidal &quot;ball&quot; explains why it was reputed to be the most powerful handgun around until the 357 Magnum appeared.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:58:44 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[General Discussion] Re: &quot;Second edition&quot; Sellers, American Gunsmiths</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?13,8798,8801#msg-8801</link>
      <author>John Gross</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Jim,

The ad says that there are &quot;thousands&quot; of new entries. Since you're retired now, can you count the listings in the two editions and get back to us?

[img]http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/linie/smiley-linie-006.gif[/img]

John Gross]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:20:22 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Colt Army M 1847</title>
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      <author>Randy K.</author>
      <description><![CDATA[According to Haven &amp; Belden, page 50, &quot;the chamber capacity is approximtaely fifty (50) grains of black powder with a conical bullet of two-hundred and twenty (220) grains ...&quot;]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:19:20 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Colt Army M 1847</title>
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      <author>steg</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Sorry, but I have no idea. To find the weight of the bullet, find someone with a good replica Walker mold -the single cavity one made from iron, not brass- and cast a bullet using pure soft lead, not one of the harder alloys commonly found today, and weigh it. 
If I remember correctly, the black powder load was anywhere between 35 and 55 grains.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:41:51 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[General Discussion] &quot;Second edition&quot; Sellers, American Gunsmiths</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?13,8798,8798#msg-8798</link>
      <author>James B Whisker</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I had not seen till last week the so-called &quot;second&quot; edition of Sellers, American Gunsmiths. Foolishly I bought a copy. How, if at all, it improves on &quot;first&quot; edition is unclear to me. At least 1st edition was (cheaply) hardbound; this one is perfect bound. Since the book appeared under the Gun Room label, many books of lists have been published, such as on Missouri gunsmiths. Swinney (NY gunsmiths) and Curt Johnson (Illinois gunsmiths) have their real books out, not just preliminary check-lists. I suppose someone who wants such a list this is OK. As for myself I feel cheated, screwed, and tatooed. Apparently nothing really was done as for example, Sellers refers to &quot;Whisker II&quot; but still does not say what that book is. It has been well over 2 decades that I started publishing state and regional lists. The &quot;second&quot; edition makes no reference to my books on WV, VA, or South Carolina (list part of my Carolinas book). Hartzler &amp; I published 2 additional MD gunsmiths books and Hutslar did an update of his OH book (in 5 volumes). There are likely other examples as well. Perahps Jerry Noble will REALLY update list of American gunsmiths.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:00:03 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: antigue cap and ball sxs pistol</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8591,8797#msg-8797</link>
      <author>rhmc24</author>
      <description><![CDATA[If you will visit the gun auctions and enter the words in the 'search' box  -- double barrel pistol -- you will find several listed.  Maybe you can find one similar to yours and gain more info.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:18:31 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Cylinder Scenes on Colt Revolvers</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8770,8796#msg-8796</link>
      <author>hmaag</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Carvings made by Tom Haas are copies, not originals.
Rob
Are you interested in photos of a Dragoon scene? 
Hans]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 05:04:39 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Colt Army M 1847</title>
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      <author>giorgio</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you very much. But do you know the weight? 
Giorgio]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:02:32 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Cylinder Scenes on Colt Revolvers</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8770,8794#msg-8794</link>
      <author>Peter3</author>
      <description><![CDATA[As the secans are roll engravings, why not ink a good clear cyl. and roll the engraving onto paper?  It certinly would be accurate.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:43:54 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Cylinder Scenes on Colt Revolvers</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8770,8793#msg-8793</link>
      <author>Paledog326</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I wanted to say thank you to everyone for all of your help.  I certainly have a lot more info now then before I asked.  Thanks again!

Rob]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:17:13 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Shotguns] Re: J.R. Evans 10 Gauge Hammer Double</title>
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      <author>JohnHenryD</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Actually it looks quite a bit like a Bonehill so my guess is that info. is correct. Thanks for the help.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:47:06 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Cylinder Scenes on Colt Revolvers</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8770,8791#msg-8791</link>
      <author>cn</author>
      <description><![CDATA[www.antiquegunroom.net has some carvings made by Tom Haas on brass plate.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:48:03 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Colt Army M 1847</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8780,8790#msg-8790</link>
      <author>steg</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The factory mold for the M1847 Army, otherwise known as the Walker Colt, had a factory issued mold that cast a conical projectile. This caused problems, in that the many of the men who were issued the pistols loaded the projectile upside-down which caused the cylinders to explode when they fired the gun. This resulted in Colt developing the two cavity mold  that had 1 ball and 1 conical cavity to accompany the Whitneyville-Hartford Dragoons that replaced the failed Walkers.
Although the US Army used paper cartridges for Muskets and the single-shot pistols during the Mexican War, paper cartridges were not available for revolvers at that time. Ready made cartridges for revolvers were not avaiolable until the early 1850's. It wasn't until 1855 that the US Army stopped buying powder flasks for revolvers.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:20:53 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Shotguns] Re: J.R. Evans 10 Gauge Hammer Double</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?10,8778,8789#msg-8789</link>
      <author>C.W. Howard</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Sounds like it must be a Bonehill, since the initial post mentions Birmingham proofs.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:29:22 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[General Discussion] Re: Richard's and Richard's-Mason</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?13,8784,8788#msg-8788</link>
      <author>C.W. Howard</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Trust Norm for aid of this sort. I am convinced that anybody with ANY interest in American firearms ought to have a copy of the GUIDE on hand - forget the pricing (though that can be helpful), but the historical information is invaluable.

Remember the title is &quot;FLAYDERMAN'S GUIDE TO ANTIQUE AMERICAN FIREARMS... and their values&quot;, the emphasis being on the &quot;Guide to Antique American Firearms&quot; part...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:28:06 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Shotguns] Re: J.R. Evans 10 Gauge Hammer Double</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?10,8778,8787#msg-8787</link>
      <author>wnf1933</author>
      <description><![CDATA[There are two listings for the name J.   R. EVANS, FINE DAMASCUS STEEL in my reference book. The first is for a gun made by C. G. Bonehill, a English gun maker from 1872 to 1900 and the second is for an unknown Belgian maker and used on a hammer double. You can tell the difference by the proof marks located on the bottom of the barrels under the forearm of the gun.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:22:11 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[General Discussion] Re: Richard's and Richard's-Mason</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?13,8784,8786#msg-8786</link>
      <author>Ken</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Very helpful and Thank you]]></description>
      <category>General Discussion</category>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:22:10 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[General Discussion] Re: Richard's and Richard's-Mason</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?13,8784,8785#msg-8785</link>
      <author>C.W. Howard</author>
      <description><![CDATA[To borrow from Norm Flayderman, &quot;Quick identification of the Richards can be made  by noting teh fallowing details: Conversion breechplate having a firing pin, integral rear sight, and a rim which projects slightly over the breech end of the cylinder, the Model 1869 barrel lug contour retained, and the ejector rod extending out of the tube significantly (in the direction of the cylinder).&quot;

For the Richards-Mason conversion &quot;Identifying characteristics allowing for quick identification of this model are: Breechplate without integral rear sight, cut away at top to allow for the hammer  to strike the cartridge, no projecting front rim on the conversion plate (as on the Richards Model)and the special barrel made for the R-M group&quot;. R-M barrel has a smaller lug  area than the Richards and teh ejector rod attached. Has patent dates of 1871 and 1872 on left side of frame. Serial number range within that of the Richards conversions, R-M running from 5800 to about 7900.

Hope this extract from Flayderman's GUIDE is helpful.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:49:06 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[General Discussion] Richard's and Richard's-Mason</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?13,8784,8784#msg-8784</link>
      <author>Ken</author>
      <description><![CDATA[What is the difference between the Richards/ Richards-Mason Conversions?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:18:26 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Cylinder Scenes on Colt Revolvers</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8770,8783#msg-8783</link>
      <author>Randy K.</author>
      <description><![CDATA[This article contains a drawing of the Colt Navy scene:

http://users.rcn.com/robertbrecht/tobias/PDFs/engaged_text.pdf]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:52:10 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Cylinder Scenes on Colt Revolvers</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8770,8782#msg-8782</link>
      <author>hmaag</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Navy51 next pics
Other Models later]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:55:22 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Cylinder Scenes on Colt Revolvers</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8770,8781#msg-8781</link>
      <author>hmaag</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Navy51Cylinder]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:51:51 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Colt Army M 1847</title>
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      <author>giorgio</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I would like what kind of balls were used in this first Colt model (Whitneyville). Spherical or elongated? What was the weight, 146?? or 210-218 grains? There were paper or linen cartridges (regular Government issue) in later 1847 and in 1848 Mexican war?
Thanks for any info
Giorgio
Italy]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:05:36 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>[Pre-1899 Firearms] Re: Cylinder Scenes on Colt Revolvers</title>
      <link>http://www.antiqueguns.com/phorum/read.php?6,8770,8779#msg-8779</link>
      <author>steg</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The best illustration of Percussion Colt cylinder scenes is in both editions of &quot;The Book of Colt Firearms&quot;  by he whose name is not mentioned in polite society (RLW). Please bear in mind that these illustrations cover originals only, not the 2nd or 3rd generation guns nor the Italian replicas, which have variations from  the original scenes.]]></description>
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